tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post8219579109674013817..comments2023-09-08T02:18:58.110-07:00Comments on SPACES FOR CHANGE [S4C] : VENTING ABOUT THE BAYELSA CRASH...Spaces for Changehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01223244425151623718noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-89609109641528444542012-12-19T03:54:35.417-08:002012-12-19T03:54:35.417-08:00The money is still there or do you know where it h...The money is still there or do you know where it has gone Mr. Rasaq? You used the word 'should be floating in some big men's pockets ready for some owambe parties...', this means you do not know. It is dangerous to come to a public forum and spread falsehood. People who do not know better may believe you, go on and parrot it elsewhere and so a rumour becomes accepted as fact and then when Transparency International goes around assessing the perception of corruption in countries, Nigeria scores very high just because some people spread some rumours. Quit all this talk about universities; I am a product of the university system and I assume you are one too. Eleven years ago when I went back for my masters degree, our universities were already glorified high schools and Obasanjo not Jonathan was in the saddle. Always situate your blames and accusations. And I do not subscribe to the theory that people are kidnapping because Jonathan has failed to provide leadership. Kidnappers are criminals; they are people who want to take the easy way out. Why are you not into kidnapping or robbery or why is every young lady from a poor background not into prostitution? A thief will always be a thief even if the poorest Nigerian is a multi-millionaire. I just think we have bought into this Jonathan bashing too much that it is blurring our sense of objectivity. On power, Nnaji had to leave because the cartel profiting from the billions if not trillions pumped into the industry blackmailed him and if Jonathan had let him stay those of you now complaining would have pilloried him no end. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443263422007768598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-17790019743182976972012-12-19T03:23:58.973-08:002012-12-19T03:23:58.973-08:00Mr Aliyu,thats a very good point you made there bu...Mr Aliyu,thats a very good point you made there but where has the money gotten from the so called ghost workers gone...i think we both know what the answer to that question is...that he saved the country a whole lot of money is no reason for celebrations, i believe we should only celebrate when we know to what cause the money is spent on..but from the little precedents we know of this rotten government,the money shoud bé floating in some big men's pocket ready for some owanbe parties and copter rental*in your words that is* as i do not believe a dime was paid for the copters....let's face the fact, we have voted in a toothless corrupt man....regardless of how much fraud is uncovered under this adminstration, the end result is not anything worth celebration for the common man....the miracle or good path that we seek would not happen under this man....to think i campaigned for him is a very bitter bile down my throat but i guess as with most nigerians, we voted wiv empathy and sympathy but not with good judgement....our universities are not any better than they were and he supposedly came through it, our roads have never been any worse, electricity surged higher when Nnaji was minister *but we are all witnesses to d state of tins now*, kidnapping is now a very tempting option to we the unemployed graduates...the 'sure programme' is another sham amongst other things..the judiciary is long buried...endless endless endlesssssssssssssss what nots...as for me, i gave up on this man when the farouq-gate happened...i think we all should and start doing the reasonable by finding the best replacement....someone with a sound mind and unquestionable integrity not somone who's head is twisted by the allisons sanusis and okonjos...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620486257894784717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-40464208485205838702012-12-19T02:24:16.663-08:002012-12-19T02:24:16.663-08:00Mr. Okpako,
Do you truly think the judiciary is u...Mr. Okpako,<br /><br />Do you truly think the judiciary is under Jonathan or you are just being plain mischievous? If you truly do, then you need to read the Nigerian constitution. I do not live in Lekki. I live in Ilupeju and yes, power supply has improved in places in the country. It may not be dramatic but it is certainly happening. Why don't you wait for Jonathan to finish his tenure and then we'll truly see how much he spent on power or whether he left the sector worse than he met it. Let's not be too hasty. On the Otedola/Lawan issue, what did Jonathan do? The House investigated the matter, find out why they haven't made the contents of their findings public. Did Jonathan ask them not to? Do you know that for a fact, you who are talking of objectivity.<br />Finally, it is debatable whether we are worse off now than before. And if for the sake of argument, I concede that that were the case, who is responsible? Jonathan alone? I suppose the rest of us bear no responsibility. You are right when you say the buck stops on the table of the leader but it clearly does not excuse irresponsibility, insensitivity and criminality on the part of citizens as well. In other climes, people talk and act, here it is talk 100 per cent and of course finger pointing. We have become very good at that. It absolves of the responsibility of being responsible for our actions. After all, why worry myself when I can blame Jonathan of one governor or the other, we say.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443263422007768598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-81428410180949773272012-12-19T02:08:46.957-08:002012-12-19T02:08:46.957-08:00Mr. Rasaq, there is only one Messiah and that is o...Mr. Rasaq, there is only one Messiah and that is our Lord Jesus Christ. Jonathan is not a messiah and never will be. That said, he is trying his best even though some people who have closed their minds to the possibility that government can do something good, will not admit it. You ask me something good he has done? I'll tell you. He has being reforming the pension system and has saved billions of naira in the neigbourhood of N7o billion stolen annually and has deleted the names of N73,000 ghost pensioners. We may not be pensioners but those who are appreciate this development. Also for pensioners, who got into the civil service of states before October 1, 1979 and who have been left stranded, he has asked that they be entitled to federal pension. He has also embarked on biometric exercise of pensioners and so far hundreds of thousands have been captured. It may not mean much to some of us but to those who put in decades of their lives in public office and had been neglected over the years, it means a lot.<br /><br />And by the way, Jonathan alone does not own this country, instead of whining and ranting and raving, we could all roll up our sleeves and put our shoulders to wheel and change Nigeria. For those who think corruption in his administration is worse than others, I say to you: do some checking. The scams we had under President Obasanjo alone stinks to high heavens. Do some research and find out.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443263422007768598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-2957674000674759752012-12-19T00:50:46.058-08:002012-12-19T00:50:46.058-08:00In this article we look at a few ways of getting c...In this article we look at a few ways of getting cheap air travel tickets.<br /><a href="http://www.cheapflightstoyou.co.uk" rel="nofollow">cheap flights to lagos</a>Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05184801571265791126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-49839372954974206682012-12-18T15:44:24.596-08:002012-12-18T15:44:24.596-08:00Mr aliyu, while i agree with you on the choice of ...Mr aliyu, while i agree with you on the choice of words used by mr ifeanyi,i must say that is as far as our agreements go...the author made mention of his salient points...why not stop beating around the bush and tell us exactly what measures have been put in place by your so called or imaginary messiah...what exactly would you point to as a marked improvement from previous adminstrations...the fact that that corruption thrived before he came into power does not in any way justify his conscious ignorance or lets say blindness to the act....its no covered secret again that by the end of his first term, we would have witnessed a glutonous corruption that has never been experienced in this country........standing for public posts is a personal descision and as such, he should bé held accountable for all misdeeds perpetrated under his very nose as we are wont to celebrate him if by dint of luck something goes his way.....the bottom line is; this present government represents everything a purpose driven one is against....NOTHING IS RIGHT!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620486257894784717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-83149752301912667682012-12-18T15:08:43.016-08:002012-12-18T15:08:43.016-08:00Mallam Shuaib we are saying the same thing, you ar...Mallam Shuaib we are saying the same thing, you are also condemning the misuse of public property and abuse of public office. You even reminded us that this has existed for a long time and not a new phenomenom. I am surprised you said journalists are worse than those busy looting Nigeria, please how can those exposing these evils be worse than the evil dooers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05698454227525367655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-62858072485335382572012-12-18T12:04:29.461-08:002012-12-18T12:04:29.461-08:00Aliu, as far as I'm concerned, the judiciary i...Aliu, as far as I'm concerned, the judiciary is under Jonathan. They succeeded in removing the President of the Appeal court because he didn't play ball. As you know too, Ibrahim Lamorde also said there are powers frustrating his moves to prosecute big wigs. I hope you don't feign ignorance as well, the role of the presidency in the Otedola Farouk issue, what has come of it? Is it the courts and judges too? Let's be objective in our arguments, with valid examples. You said I should read the papers, I absolutely see nothing there hence I asked you who sees to educate me. I also stay in Lagos, but my light situation which improved with Nnaji as minister has seriously worsened after his sack. You are a rare one who says yours has improved, do you please by chance stay in Lekki? Maybe that would explain. <br /><br />With all objectiveness, when all is done and dusted, Jonathan may have spent more that Obasanjo on Power. When the time comes, we shall find out. <br /><br />My brother, we are worse off now in every area than we were before. In leadership, the praise and flak go to the man at the top, not his lieutenants. I dare to say Jonathan is clueless on how to rule this country of ours. We deserve better. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11518466545971860279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-29979457201533564102012-12-18T09:30:54.311-08:002012-12-18T09:30:54.311-08:00Mr. Okpako, we have caste of mind, we assumes that...Mr. Okpako, we have caste of mind, we assumes that because someone arues in support of a particular fellow he is necessarily 'chopping' from him. First of all, I am not fro the north. I am from Edo State. If northern governors think the South South is wealthier, the onus is on them to prove. They also need to tell us what they have done with the income that has accrued to their states over the years.<br /><br />If you want to know what Jonathan has done, then read the papers. His aides have been talking only that those who have formed a mindset about him and his administration have refused to acknowledge. Again, I say do some investigating. <br /><br />For one thing, there is greater supply of power where I live in Lagos now than before. Whereas in the past we used to have about 20 hours of power supply in a week, we now enjoy around 10 to 12 hours of power supply daily. It may not be much but its something. I recall that Obasanjo spent about $13 billion on power and ended up plunging us into darkness. On trial of corrupt persons, I refer you to EFCC's Ibrahim Lamorde's comments last month on why people are not getting convicted. Ask the lawyers and judges involved in these cases why they have dragged on. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443263422007768598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-55202795359475286962012-12-18T09:12:50.950-08:002012-12-18T09:12:50.950-08:00Hello Aliu Shuaib, I can understand your passion &...Hello Aliu Shuaib, I can understand your passion & support for Jonathan. Nevertheless, I await a reasonable truthful list from you of the things that work in Nigeria currently. Secondly, kindly mention any of the 'big fish' corrupt cases that have been fully closed and the culprits jailed (albeit what happened in Obasanjo' s government). I am from the South South, besides the Benin Warri expressway which was long awarded but completed under Obasanjo's government, Jonathan has done nothing for concrete for the region besides 'settling' his Edwin Clarke led foot soldiers. Perhaps, since you are in the full knowledge of the 'things' happening in GEJ's government, kindly educate those of us sitting as you have stood so long with Jonathan. While I agree with some of your points, GEJ's agenda is far from appropriate transformation those who voted for him and otherwise looked forward to see. Rather, only a few pockets have been transformed. Kindly note, that governors from the northern part from where i believe you are from once said the South South has become wealthier than the other parts of the country. As a GEJ supporter, kindly confirm if you align with this position of the northern governors or not.<br /><br />As much as possible, you have fallen a victim of your own gospel. You asked Ifeanyi to be civil but ended up being uncivil to the writer, this is not fair enough. We all have our opinions just as i stand with the fact that we should keep this conversation on the beautiful piece written civil.<br /><br />I submit.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11518466545971860279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-55039013741437297342012-12-18T09:04:12.835-08:002012-12-18T09:04:12.835-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11518466545971860279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-48837108667723334162012-12-18T07:23:46.838-08:002012-12-18T07:23:46.838-08:00Woah, this is more than revealing. Keep it up pls,...Woah, this is more than revealing. Keep it up pls, Jah-blessRAJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10493895841753042378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-54113054362191384002012-12-18T07:10:16.680-08:002012-12-18T07:10:16.680-08:00Mr Kehinde,
I never knew one could hire military h...Mr Kehinde,<br />I never knew one could hire military helicopters for personal use. Infact am hearing this for the first time. And thank you very much for the info as i might probably have a birthday celebration that might warrant that very soon. They have not fixed the roads so that will be necessary to fly my guests too. I also pray the cash realised are going into the treasury.<br />Now that the helicopter has crashed, who then do u think will be responsible for the replacement?Definitely tax payers money. Millions of naira have been budgeted for helicopter maintenance just for personal use.<br />With this unfortunate incident please kindly tell Mr President to make the transformation also get to the roads and not just buying now jets and building new auditorium in the villa. This accident would have been avoided if the east west road have been transformed. I rest my case.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09954737005432022841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-57441541895048892522012-12-18T07:09:47.556-08:002012-12-18T07:09:47.556-08:00Ifeanyi, try and be civil when making your comment...Ifeanyi, try and be civil when making your comments. If anyone lives in a deluded world, it is people like this writer who make it appear as if Nigeria is one dark world where nothing works. If you desire to know what is being done to fix this country, get off, your butt and social media and do some investigating. Don't just sit there and 'blow grammar'. Steps are being taken by government but because you have closed your mind to the possibility that anything good can come from government, you will not see it. <br /><br />It is convenient for people to say that corruption has escalated during Jonathan's Presidency because it makes them feel like they are champions of the social cause. The truth however, is that Jonathan more than leaders before him, has been willing to let acts of corruption in his administration be exposed. And even though you may likely not believe it, people are being tried. If they are not being convicted, then ask the lawyers and judges who preside over the cases.<br /><br />We should quit being hypocrites and tell ourselves the truth, which quite clearly is that there is looting going on in all the states of the federation, the local governments, banks, oil companies, civil society organisations and newspapers, which have nothing to do with Jonathan. If you want to continue to live in denial, go ahead. If it makes you feel good to think that Nigeria's problems started with Jonathan or that he alone will solve it, then go ahead. But if you do, know that you will only be living in a fool's paradise.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443263422007768598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-55047435734090307472012-12-18T06:49:20.400-08:002012-12-18T06:49:20.400-08:00Aliu Shuaib....you sound like a man who lives in a...Aliu Shuaib....you sound like a man who lives in a deluded world where nothing positive exists,if you ask me,I will say you have a point when you said that president Jonathan didn't start the era of corruption and impunity in Nigeria. But that's where your common sense ended. To assume that he should fold his hands and watch the nation plundered beyond redemption is a social felon by you. The mantra given to him is a great one and he has done absolutely nothing to defend he's worth it. What we have is a world record for docility in office where every Tom,Dick and Harry is doing what he likes. In the process,crime,violence,corruption and all shades of vices has escalated in just a few months of his presidency.<br /> Nigeria is a diverse country with special needs,we are a country of highly intelligent people,the author of this piece is obviously not the best journalist man has seen,but he has made salient points which has been bothering every normal and decent Nigerian. A rolling stone gathers no moss,so a stitch in time they say,can only save nine. <br />@countprojectAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16192444668006098321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-76532109757415127092012-12-18T06:23:50.072-08:002012-12-18T06:23:50.072-08:00This is a good piece and ordinarily should get Nig...This is a good piece and ordinarily should get Niger-Deltans doing some soul searching but as the people i have come to know them to be from the past few years, they will just tell you "it is their son" and everyone should keep off.it really is sad that as a people they have never stood up to demand the right thing to be done even if it is one of them is the guilty party.Nigeria and tribalism!Odedele Tosinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07838488109733621429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-64940305915005882292012-12-18T06:19:40.012-08:002012-12-18T06:19:40.012-08:00Nobody is abusing their office! For your informati...Nobody is abusing their office! For your information, these helicopters are hired just as you can hire it when you need it. They are not suppose to be kept grounded for a very long time; they need to fly regularly. Do you think you can impeachment the President based on unbiased reporting? I can see ignorant running through your system. Call on me for enlightenment and you better join the Transformation Train before you regret you action of today! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500233794765748958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-58132259697240686012012-12-18T05:49:08.510-08:002012-12-18T05:49:08.510-08:00Dear Oriyomi,
Let us always situate our arguments...Dear Oriyomi,<br /><br />Let us always situate our arguments. The use of military aircraft for other purposes did not start today. Remember that Abacha lost his son many years ago when a presidential jet bearing him and his friends crash. So, it did not start today. While this does not justify the practice, there is the need to be open and upfront when commenting in the public space so as not gto mislead people.<br /><br />WE have gotten into the habit of making wild allegations with providing a basis for those allegations. In the write up above, the writer said: "just weeks ago, Dino Melaye, in his oft-boisterous manner, drew public attention to the poor state of roads networks in the Niger Delta region, - especially the popular East-West Road - and accused the former Niger Delta minister, Godsday Orubebe of corruption. Rather than look into the merits of Melaye’s claims, presidential and ministerial aides lashed out at him, calling him all sorts of unprintable names." Now, I followed the Melaye-Orubebe altercation, the only person I know that formally responded to Melaye's allegation was Orubebe himself. I remember this very well because I had cause to complain to a colleague about the foul and unbecoming language Orubebe used to describe Melaye. I do not know of any other minister or presidential aide who intervened in the matter perhaps apart from Dr. Doyin Okupe, who simply said when asked for comment, that government would look into the allegations. Perhaps, the writer would care to educate us more on this by providing evidence in support of her comments.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443263422007768598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-23597699220048795522012-12-18T05:43:31.066-08:002012-12-18T05:43:31.066-08:00And what exactly is the point Aliu Shuaib is makin...And what exactly is the point Aliu Shuaib is making?Itopahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103741153209762978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-34294539096859110542012-12-18T05:33:06.554-08:002012-12-18T05:33:06.554-08:00Dear Aliu,
But please let call a spade a spade. We...Dear Aliu,<br />But please let call a spade a spade. We always go back to decade of decay, the corruption has been on for a long time etc. So must President Jonathan now add his own to our problems? We already know our problems and he does not need to come add to it. When he was campaigning, he higlighted all these problems just for him to come and start solving them in his wisdom, he is busy telling us he didn't cause them. <br />How has past the past era justified the use of navy helicopters for personal use? did the past leaders also caused that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09954737005432022841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-86278891639010345662012-12-18T05:24:59.389-08:002012-12-18T05:24:59.389-08:00Very interesting write up. Thought provoking!Very interesting write up. Thought provoking!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12679158355707856694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-16811981899250817072012-12-18T05:24:31.381-08:002012-12-18T05:24:31.381-08:00Mr Kehinde,
The writer has not asked the president...Mr Kehinde,<br />The writer has not asked the president to be everywhere but he has the responsibility to also demand his team of technocrats whom he is paying heavily to perform.<br />The fact remains that from this unfortunate incident, it exposes just a little of how they abuse their office. Using naval helicopters for personal use. Thats worth impeachment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09954737005432022841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-24286533096229090462012-12-18T05:07:59.570-08:002012-12-18T05:07:59.570-08:00Nobody is begging you to mourn. You can keep your ...Nobody is begging you to mourn. You can keep your high opinion to yourself. Every dog has its day. You will also die one day.Do you know what is worse than leaders looting public funds? It is 'pseudo' intellectuals who pick and choose who should be the bad guys and who should not depending either on their relationships or their pay cheques. You betray your ignorance or propensity for mischief when you label Jonathan the most corrupt Nigerian leader. He is not a saint but do your homework and research and find out which leaders have stolen this country blind. <br /><br />Wake up, my sister. Nigeria did not go blind overnight. You are naive if you think so. What we are seeing today is the result of decades of misrule and the men you have conveniently neglected to mention their names, misfits who have been make so much noise lately-El Rufai, Obasanjo and Fani-Kayode, to mention just a few, contributed immensely to the rot for which everyone is now holding Jonathan hostage.<br /><br />Yes, we need to fix Nigeria but we cannot fix it if we continue to lie and deceive ourselves. We cannot make our country work if we continue to suffer from selective amnesia. We must call a spade a spade.<br /><br /><br />Aliu ShuaibAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443263422007768598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-47796244805003855532012-12-18T05:03:47.417-08:002012-12-18T05:03:47.417-08:00The President cannot be in all the States of the F...The President cannot be in all the States of the Federation at the same time. The National Assembly need to carry out their over sigh function to logical conclusion and it is high time we start blaming the President for every single thing that happens. The State Governors are there to monitor projects awarded in their States, the Houses of Assembly are there to over sight projects as well as the Civil Society including the Media. If all the roads in Bayelsa State are tarred today, people like you will say the President Goodluck Jonathan has used his influence as President award contracts to tarred the whole road neglecting other States! The Freedom of Information Bill has empowered every citizens to ask questions on any issues that you need to know, what stops you from requesting information from the Ministry of Niger Delta or Ministry of Works on road projects in the Niger Delta region? We need to be careful on the ways we put ALL blames on the President. Even when mosquito bite you, you call the President's name. Let us leave sycophancy and be sincere!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500233794765748958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4746648066074550397.post-23341534281163408792012-12-18T00:59:41.399-08:002012-12-18T00:59:41.399-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13306797934436772980noreply@blogger.com